Title: An empirical investigation of the relationship between the laws of Zipf and Gibrat Abstract: The talk will present empirical evidence against currently popular explanations of Zipf's law as the asymptotic outcome of appropriately modified versions of Gibrat's law. The laws are studied in the context of US city and firm growth and the empirical analysis is based on a new form of the variance ratio test modified for use with panel data. This motivates work in progress that aims at a different type of explanation for Zipf's law that is inspired from biological scaling models.